tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post2092165116810477551..comments2024-03-23T11:05:13.046+01:00Comments on Dimitri Gielis Blog (Oracle Application Express - APEX): When not to use APEX?Dimitri Gielishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16295721159626839167noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-11035734499210700802014-12-10T17:55:00.665+01:002014-12-10T17:55:00.665+01:00So, has your opinion changed since this post was o...So, has your opinion changed since this post was originally written? Any advancements you feel make apex a better choice now versus what you thought in 2008?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04617590228256024255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-29919117255963963382008-09-18T07:43:00.000+02:002008-09-18T07:43:00.000+02:00Oliver, i am interested in your solution to the of...Oliver, i am interested in your solution to the offline data problem.. for me the APEX Achilles heel.<BR/><BR/>Did this require sharepoint and dinner with bill gate's daughter or was the submission of a batch of new records (and editing?) via http into the oracle achievable ? I don't suppose you wrote any memoirs about that experience anywhere ?<BR/><BR/>cheers,<BR/><BR/>-iUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00040243455621933000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-8470288913054115342008-09-17T11:42:00.000+02:002008-09-17T11:42:00.000+02:00Hi Vinny,Java or .Net teams probably want to build...Hi Vinny,<BR/><BR/>Java or .Net teams probably want to build the application in something they knew, instead of learning something new (PLSQL/APEX).<BR/><BR/>DimitriDimitri Gielishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16295721159626839167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-10941165220816506382008-09-02T15:20:00.000+02:002008-09-02T15:20:00.000+02:00Nice artice Dimitri.Your first point mentions that...Nice artice Dimitri.<BR/>Your first point mentions that you wouldn't use Apex where development teams are using .Net or Java.<BR/><BR/>What's your thinking behind this?Vincehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05582031194044330892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-90775656572878787492008-02-12T09:16:00.000+01:002008-02-12T09:16:00.000+01:00Hi Tim,but can you do that with a Java/.Net HTML s...Hi Tim,<BR/><BR/>but can you do that with a Java/.Net HTML solution? To my knowledge they have the same browser restriction than APEX. In the end it's always just HTML.<BR/><BR/>PatrickPatrick Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16652802762749621200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-58304782037440748582008-02-12T08:56:00.000+01:002008-02-12T08:56:00.000+01:00Hi,I guess an argument for not using APEX can be, ...Hi,<BR/><BR/>I guess an argument for not using APEX can be, that you are not "near" at the system. for example you cannot print directly, only with the borwser funtionality...<BR/>Regards,<BR/>timAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-8032954544716664412008-01-28T10:23:00.000+01:002008-01-28T10:23:00.000+01:00Stew,your 100% right, I was just adding it to the ...Stew,<BR/><BR/>your 100% right, I was just adding it to the nice list of Dimitri :)Olivier Duponthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16861986912387970042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-62263395909879838922008-01-25T13:17:00.000+01:002008-01-25T13:17:00.000+01:00Olivier,Why refactor something that's perfect the ...Olivier,<BR/><BR/>Why refactor something that's perfect the first time?<BR/><BR/>Or did you mean refactor your underlying PL/SQL?<BR/><BR/>I actually reengineered my authorization routine just yesterday, including changing the calling signatures. I was pleasantly surprised that changing my PL/SQL function only necessitated changing a single line in my Apex app. I'm not sure that would have been as easy calling from other development tools.Stewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177922393895344852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-45135332217235481912008-01-25T13:11:00.000+01:002008-01-25T13:11:00.000+01:00We have developed an application for a company tha...We have developed an application for a company that also wants to work offline.<BR/><BR/>We used Microsoft infopath for the offline version and let it upload the generated xml in apex.<BR/><BR/>I was pretty happy with that solution.<BR/><BR/>An other reason: 'When refactoring is a must' :)Olivier Duponthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16861986912387970042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-53375742153984623562008-01-24T22:31:00.000+01:002008-01-24T22:31:00.000+01:00As Stew already wrote, when you don't have a onlin...As Stew already wrote, when you don't have a online connection all the time, I think that would be a NO GO for Oracle APEX.<BR/><BR/>PatrickPatrick Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16652802762749621200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-76270989617695574662008-01-24T19:18:00.000+01:002008-01-24T19:18:00.000+01:00Excellent article!Another might be if you need to ...Excellent article!<BR/><BR/>Another might be if you need to collect data off-line (hey, it happens!). In that situation, we've developed FileMaker applications that can run on a laptop at the remote site.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I know you could install Oracle Express and Apex on a laptop, but that seems like a bit of overkill, no?<BR/><BR/>Also, some applications really benefit from slick GUIs that can't easily be done with Apex.Stewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177922393895344852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-77889799925336918732008-01-23T17:25:00.000+01:002008-01-23T17:25:00.000+01:00One argument I make in my organization is: "Look f...One argument I make in my organization is: "Look folks, how much money do you spend per year on that Oracle db license? Wouldn't you like to get more ROI?".<BR/><BR/>Another good one is "Ever had Access file corruption?".<BR/><BR/>A final good one is "So you have a secure Access/Excel -ahem- database with all this confidential business inforamtion. Wow, and it has built-in password protection. Great! Time me, I just downloaded a new version of this cracking software and I want to see how many minutes it will take me to get in."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-49930294129645670122008-01-23T10:58:00.000+01:002008-01-23T10:58:00.000+01:00In my organization people think that Apex is not a...In my organization people think that Apex is not an Enterprise option just an alternative for Excel/Access type of applications.<BR/><BR/>Also because of its form submitting behavior applications which need to be reducing the database calls(like internet or extranet applications) are not perceived to be candidates for apex.<BR/><BR/>I am still working on these, another Apex Evangalist lets say but just inside my company :)Tonguçhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10296956337243833265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-8284934978972351232008-01-23T09:33:00.000+01:002008-01-23T09:33:00.000+01:00Dimitri,Love this list of arguments!Fully agree.To...Dimitri,<BR/><BR/>Love this list of arguments!<BR/>Fully agree.<BR/><BR/>Toon K.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-22418176549667556372008-01-23T02:30:00.000+01:002008-01-23T02:30:00.000+01:00>>when you need to program for a specific device (...>><BR/>when you need to program for a specific device (calculator, hospital equipment etc.)<BR/>>><BR/><BR/>One of the features that will help with this is the ability to supress our built in css or js , it's going to help greatly with mobile and small screen applications.Carl Backstromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05017816632779478810noreply@blogger.com