tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post4046235355261733248..comments2024-03-23T11:05:13.046+01:00Comments on Dimitri Gielis Blog (Oracle Application Express - APEX): We shall not use APEX!?Dimitri Gielishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16295721159626839167noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-20318797628792184302009-10-22T13:54:12.065+02:002009-10-22T13:54:12.065+02:00Hi Dimitri,
I've been using APEx with quite s...Hi Dimitri,<br /><br />I've been using APEx with quite satisfaction for a couple of years. I don't share your enthusiasm because applications don't come out (to me) as easily as I expect, in the end I get beautiful applications but the developing effort is quit heavy.<br /><br />The new IT chief seems to want "anything" but APEX or Forms, he's proposing a tool by ebdsoft (http://www.ebdsoft.com/) that aparently seems to be a "better" APEX.<br /><br />Do you know of more tools like APEX? I have not found any comparison of simple developing tools to interact with Oracle databases and It's hard for me to believe there are not more.Morcehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14749411173850829424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-19011167123301430302007-09-11T23:56:00.000+02:002007-09-11T23:56:00.000+02:00In Flex Builder's defense, although Flex is gainin...In Flex Builder's defense, although Flex is gaining acceptance and maturing, best practices and design methodology are things that developers are still exploring IMO. This is quickly changing, but also due to the fact that Flex is relatively new, you have to consider that the developers using it will of course be less experienced. <BR/><BR/>If you give a highly experienced non-apex developer a project, and a brand new Apex developer the same, you may have a very different result. <BR/><BR/>This sounds like a "fun" competition but due to this, and the short time scale (which definitely gave Apex the advantage), I would not consider this a scientific measure of the "best" solution by any means. <BR/><BR/>Also, it's not factoring in the fact that the final product of a Flex project will be superior to any web-based solution that requires server round-trips constantly--degrading users' experience and perception of quality significantly. And if you did this experiment with a more realistic project time table, so that Apex loses it's "quick start" advantage, or you start to add more complex business logic and/or graphical elements, you'd see different results.<BR/><BR/>I'm not saying Apex is an "inferior" solution by any means - it has it's place. But you'll be hard-pressed to find any one-size-fits-all IT solution nowadays, and writing off technologies (especially newer ones such as Flex) would be a mistake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-48676801497417670102007-05-16T02:03:00.000+02:002007-05-16T02:03:00.000+02:00Hi I don't know much about other tools and i am fr...Hi <BR/>I don't know much about other tools and i am from oracle database express edtion and without that much programming xps, but i can use apex and make applications, simple one, currently, It is good. I will keep going.<BR/><BR/>PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-85731329552491933542007-04-03T09:29:00.000+02:002007-04-03T09:29:00.000+02:00Hi Steve,Thanks for your post. I don't want to ar...Hi Steve,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your post. I don't want to argue with you, you're the expert! ;-)<BR/><BR/>I didn't realise ADF is the same as (or follow-up of) BC4J. I had the impression that the demos I saw from ADF were "different" and a lot more than I had a few years ago with BC4J. I suppose it's the evolution...<BR/><BR/>Thanks again, much appreciated,<BR/>DimitriDimitri Gielishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16295721159626839167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-16528872811425467392007-04-02T20:22:00.000+02:002007-04-02T20:22:00.000+02:00Not too surprising the result of the contest ;-) A...Not too surprising the result of the contest ;-) <BR/><BR/>And the "weakness" of customizing the templates is not as bad as it seems from my point of view: functionality and GUI design can be split easily ;-)<BR/><BR/>It would be interesting to have PHP or similiar in another contest.....<BR/><BR/>AlexAlexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13874856035294816221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-55839327874173570562007-04-02T17:25:00.000+02:002007-04-02T17:25:00.000+02:00I don't read Dutch unfortunately, but I wanted to ...I don't read Dutch unfortunately, but I wanted to add a small clarifying comment that BC4J is known these days as ADF Business Components, and that when developers use the recommend technology stack for Forms/4GL Developers, they are using ADF and JSF (with these business components formerly known as BC4J) as part of that solution. In other words, nothing is "already 'old'" about it. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com