tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post819440777249364860..comments2024-03-23T11:05:13.046+01:00Comments on Dimitri Gielis Blog (Oracle Application Express - APEX): The history (I know) of APEXDimitri Gielishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16295721159626839167noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-9540841808051723132007-03-27T20:28:00.000+02:002007-03-27T20:28:00.000+02:00don't forget "flow builder" ... :-))don't forget "flow builder" ... :-))Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-30062608949030128132007-03-15T01:36:00.000+01:002007-03-15T01:36:00.000+01:001996 sounds about right, I got the dates mixed up....1996 sounds about right, I got the dates mixed up. That was the time I was at Oracle Canada. Cant be sure but I thought it was Mike Hichwa that was producing the code at that time. I was surprised to find the webview code still floating around the internet when I went googling for it.<BR/>No doubt the product has improved. Sorry for the typos in the original post. The ending was meant to read "PS I still use webdb at work - its a plain, no nonsense htmldb with a better report writer"Darylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12287291667655921053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-51984259462236491832007-03-14T23:28:00.000+01:002007-03-14T23:28:00.000+01:00Thanks David for your great post! It's nice to kno...Thanks David for your great post! It's nice to know the background of something you really like...Dimitri Gielishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16295721159626839167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-82930713178853121882007-03-14T23:17:00.000+01:002007-03-14T23:17:00.000+01:00Mike Hichwa and Joel Kallman were tasked with buil...Mike Hichwa and Joel Kallman were tasked with building a Web Calendar.<BR/>They built the framework while also building the solution and called it Flows. Flows was then renamed Project Marvel and with a growing development team, they went out to a Beta Customer to actually build a solution using the tool. <BR/>Once the team finished building a suite of applications (which are still in Production today) they moved off to productize the tool. In 2004 HTML DB v1.5 was officially released as a fully supported Oracle product. <BR/>In 2006, HTML DB was renamed to Oracle Application Express 2.1Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06420119505200371727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-33586209995082059502007-03-12T08:47:00.000+01:002007-03-12T08:47:00.000+01:00Hi Dietmar,Thanks a lot for your info. Really inte...Hi Dietmar,<BR/><BR/>Thanks a lot for your info. Really interesting insights that I didn't know of.<BR/><BR/>DimitriDimitri Gielishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16295721159626839167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-25011120822422385702007-03-12T08:20:00.000+01:002007-03-12T08:20:00.000+01:00Dimitri, personally, I wouldn't consider WebDB (or...Dimitri, <BR/><BR/>personally, I wouldn't consider WebDB (or WebView) the precursor to Apex. <BR/><BR/>It is more of a lessons learned redesign from WebDB and other approaches to web development using mod_plsql. <BR/><BR/>The design is completely different. In WebDB you specified the metadata for the components and then "executable" stored packages were created. The customization was very limited, changing the layout/behaviour was very hard and the product was quite buggy. <BR/><BR/>Also, many people (used to ;) shy away from Apex since they thought that it might have the same fate as WebDB, which is basically discontinued. <BR/><BR/>Regards, <BR/>~Dietmar.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04283721022948206416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-61795174609186182312007-03-12T08:07:00.000+01:002007-03-12T08:07:00.000+01:00Daryl, yes, WebView was the application building f...Daryl, <BR/><BR/>yes, WebView was the application building framework created by Tom Kyte and Christoper Beck, the first release in 1996, I believe. <BR/><BR/>It was then incorporated into WebDB. It is still part of the current Portal product (database provider) but has not been developed further for many years. <BR/><BR/>Regards, <BR/>~Dietmar.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04283721022948206416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-91417321842602836392007-03-12T00:34:00.000+01:002007-03-12T00:34:00.000+01:00Don't know about webview...About reports, you defi...Don't know about webview...<BR/><BR/>About reports, you definitely should check Apex 3.0 where there's pdf reporting available. (also integration with BI Publisher)Dimitri Gielishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16295721159626839167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-11564275634626360572007-03-12T00:30:00.000+01:002007-03-12T00:30:00.000+01:00Wasnt webview the precursor to webdb? I seem to re...Wasnt webview the precursor to webdb? I seem to recall working with that one when I was at Oracle Canada back in 89 or 90.<BR/><BR/>PS I still use webdb at work - its a plan, nonsense htmldb with a better report writer.<BR/><BR/>Daryl.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21122514.post-91673223638599271002007-03-11T17:29:00.000+01:002007-03-11T17:29:00.000+01:00Really interesting to see how the APEX Builder Lay...Really interesting to see how the APEX Builder Layout has evolved from the first Marvel version to the current APEX 3.0 version...<BR/><BR/>PatrickPatrick Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16652802762749621200noreply@blogger.com